Proper & Correct Tie Length Explained – How To Tutorial For Stylish Men

Proper & Correct Tie Length Explained – How To Tutorial For Stylish Men

Welcome back to the Gentleman’s Gazette! In today’s video, we discuss the proper tie
length as well as the balance of the front blade and the back blade. Whenever we post outfit pictures on our social
channels, one of the most discussed things is the proper length of the tie. It’s interesting to see all the different
rules that come up, do’s and don’ts and different opinions and therefore, our video is here
to bring some clarity for you so you can find the tie in the right length and that flatters
you. The first thing to understand is the history
of the tie. It was purely decorative and served no functional
purpose whatsoever so the only goal of it was to make you look good. Keeping that in mind, it’s hard to argue that
one thing is more correct than another. For example, if you look at the 1920’s and
30’s, most men would wear a vest or waistcoat and even if they wouldn’t, their ties were
rather short. They would either reach the belly button or
sometimes not even that. Of course, they would also wear high-waisted
trousers so they might have impacted the length. Today, ties have definitely gotten longer
but the overall length of the tie is hugely impacted by the balance between your front
wide blade and back slim blade. Basically, you have three options, you can
have the front blade be as long as the back blade. You can have the front blade be much longer
than the back blade or it can be much shorter. Because a tie has a fixed length, this balance
really impacts how long your tie will be when it’s tied. But it’s not all, other factors that affect
the length are what knot you choose, what kind of tie you have, does it have a thick
interlining? It’s very thick if so, it creates a thick
knot. For a thinner tie, it creates a thinner knot
and therefore the tie is longer. Of course, these three variations can be worn
either in short, very long or just in the middle of the waistband. So as you can see, your variations are endless
and just saying “Oh, tie your tie so the tip reaches your waistband or the buckle of your
belt” is much easier said than done. Before we get more into the length, let’s
look at the details of the different options and how they make you look. When your tie is overall very short, it provides
you a vintage look or in the worst case, it can make you look like a child. So keep that in mind if you like very short
ties. Of course, if you’re a shorter guy, you need
a shorter tie and to learn more about short men’s clothing and ties, check out this video
here. So when the wide front blade is much longer
than the back blade, chances are that it extends past your waistband and it peeks out underneath
of your jacket, that’s visually distracting because people look down and the triangular
shape of the tie highlights your crotch which is very disadvantageous. Because of that, we suggest not to wear a
tie like that but of course, each to his own. If you decide to go that way, a problem that
you might face is that your shorter, slimmer blade is not long enough to get into the keeper
and if it peeks out to the side, it just looks like your tie is too short and you just got
it from your younger brother. Personally, I don’t use a keeper but I also
prefer to tie my tie so both blades have about the same length. That way, it looks a little more casual, a
little more nonchalant and it’s a look that I personally enjoy. So should you use a keeper or not? Well, traditionally it was something that
was used by people but if you look at elegant men today, they oftentimes want the more sprezzatura
feel with their tie and they intentionally do not use that keeper loop in the back. In any case, you should never use scotch tape
or any kind of glue because it looks cheap. Sometimes, you can also see ties where the
back blade is considerably longer and just like if the front is longer, it dangles past
your waistband. Because it’s a little slimmer, it’s less distracting
but in my opinion, it still highlights the wrong part of your outfit. Originally, this was a style favored by Johhny
Agnelli and he definitely popularized it. Today, you can see a lot of young men wearing
it but also some more seasoned chaps like Francesco Barberis Canonico. Again, the way you wear your tie is an expression
of your individual style and there’s absolute no right or wrong. What matters is that you do it consciously
and that you can repeat it every single time. Another important element of the tie besides
the length is the tie dimple. You can see me wearing one right now. If you want to learn how to get it in your
tie, please check out this video here, it works every single time guaranteed. So what’s the proper and correct tie length
for you? Personally, I think it’s best when the front
blade and back blade tips are roughly the same length and just reach the waistband of
your pants. Now, think about that for a second, every
pair of pants is different, it has a slightly different rise and in combination with every
tie being different, there are lots of variations. Some others argue the tips should be slightly
longer and reach the buttonhole. Others shorter, some like it longer and past
the waistband. I like the waistband idea because htat way,
the tie does not peek out from underneath your jacket and it focus the viewer’s attention
to your face because of the V-shape of your jacket and the tie on top. If you always wear one kind of knot and all
your ties are about the same length, it’s relatively easy and predictable how you have
to tie your tie and how you have to start to get the right length you want. However personally, I find that with the different
knots I tie, the ties I have, I usually have a range of different lengths. For me, that’s shorter lengths for high-rise
trousers and smaller knots. About regular length for slightly bigger tie
knots and pants that don’t come up as high. Overall, I’m not a big fan of Windsor knots
that’s why I avoid long ties but if you like the half-Windsor or the full Windsor, you
will need a long tie even if you’re just regular height if you want to have both blades be
the same length. If you want to learn how to tie different
tie knots, please check out our video series here, so you understand what’s going on. Unfortunately, most ties don’t come in a general
length and so you actually have to try things out until you find out what works for you
and what doesn’t. It takes a lot of trial and error and you
have to practice but once you know what length your tie is and how long it has to be with
a particular knot, it’s going to be much easier for you to get the tie length right. So what does that mean for a proper tie length? No one will win this argument because there’s
no absolute right or wrong, what matters is what you personally like. I think that most men look best with a back
blade and the front blade being about the same length ending just above the waistband. If you want to have different ties in short,
in regular, and in long so you get exactly the right length for the right pants you have,
please take a look at our Fort Belvedere selection here. If you want to learn more about 12 essential
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78 thoughts on “Proper & Correct Tie Length Explained – How To Tutorial For Stylish Men”

  • Fantastic video I agree that the proper length would be just above the waist band this length give your look total balance if for example one end of the tie extends far beyond the other it simply throws your attire off balance people eyes will be drawn to that fact and no matter how well coordinated your outfit is when your accessories are at war with your suit in this case just doesn't look well symmetry is important when putting a look together when something looks out of place then you have defeated your purpose thanks for the video fine summation.

  • Politics aside, knowing of Trump over the decades, he probably doee wear his ties purposefully long to point to his crotch. LOL.

  • I like the full Windsor knot cause it's so nice and even. It doesn't look so crooked compared to other knots. I also tighten the knot so it doesn't look so big.

  • I have a thought about 0:39 – Although the history of tie places it as pure decoration, could it not be suggested that over time, function was infused into tie design, making it more than just decoration today? I ask this because I believe the modern tie does serve a distinct purpose: A shirt button cover (typically, a tie that covers any more or any less than your shirt buttons is already considered generally taboo) and something to block the elements from getting down your collar. To take it to a logical extreme, if the tie is purely decoration then why are clip-on ties not more acceptable? Thoughts?

  • I like proper tie length, but a President that protects America and honors the Constitution is more important to me. Glad Barry is gone.

  • I like the tie to be around the belt area. in the middle or at the top edge is fine for me.

    whenever I get a new tie, be it short or long, I always try to tie it a few times before the day I'm going to use it. that way I know how to tie it when the day comes, and I don't risk being late for work, because I had problems with the tie 👐

  • One of the most distracting looks on a man is when his tie peeks out from under his jacket. Some might consider it casual and a good look. Personally, I think it breaks the clean lines and men should start wearing vests again. Bring on back the styles of the 1920's!

  • From what I've read, a larger knot is most ideal for a spread collar shirt. And given that larger knots take up more of the tie length, I find that I barely have enough material to place it in the tie-stay. PS I find large and elaborate knots. My go-to knot is the double Windsor.

  • For everyone raging about how Raphael showed a photo of Mr. Trump, you would be heartened after you check out his video about vests/undershirts…..

  • Raphael because of you I know dress very dapper and most importantly correctly! So glad I found your channel a year ago!!!

  • If my ties end up being too long, I usually go for a double four in hand to keep it at the top of my belt.

  • Mr. Aaron Marino is the foundation of gentlemen's style and class.
    Mr. Antonio Centeno is the skyscrapper of gentlemen's style and class.
    And Mr. Sven Raphael Schneider is the epitome of gentlemen's style and class.

  • Personally I prefer a full Windsor with the tie to the waist and a tie tack in the middle of the tie rarely use a tie bar.

  • Best knot for short men, I'm talking guys 5'6" and under? I have sooo much trouble getting proper length when I tie a tie no matter what knot I use.

  • Mr Schneider,

    Is the dimple really right? as it is indeed a crease, I would not bet it is always right, yet what do you think about it, please?

    Thank you.


  • I am working on making custom length ties especially for big and tall men because the standard tie is only 58"-59" My personal Ties that i have made for me are 70"

  • How should you store your tie colection? Does keeping them on racks make them slowly streth with gravity. I have started rolling mine and putting them in a drawer.

  • I'm a lazy guy and I tend to not leave myself time to really get dressed in the mornings. So, as a time saving measure I slip my tie off over my head and leave it tied so all I have to do it put it on and tighten the knot. Is this bad for tie? Be honest, I can take it.

  • Military uniform ties use a keeper with a buttonhole in the narrow blade to keep it from flapping in the breeze.

  • I like his channel, but this is one is so self evident and everything goes type of video it wasn’t worth the time making it. In Britain the standard, and correct method, is to the trouser waist level only and the back blade is tucked in the front blade hook, or keeper, and should never be seen. Today’s modern way’s are not traditional but if you’re young enough perhaps it’s for you, although frowned on at a gentleman’s club in London and my regiment club. I didn’t see the point of this video.

  • I love suits! I wear suits all day, everyday!! 💕👔 I love wearing 1940’s style suits! I love your channel!

  • The knot that looks best is dependent on your size. A big knot on a big man can look great compared to a small knot and vice versa for skinny or shorter guys.
    I personally like the tie to be 1cm above the waste (still below belly button) and the back part to be about 2-3cm higher than the front.
    I'm a tall guy with a thick neck and athletic build so the classic look does well for me. So the thick not is the way to go and the tie has to come from a big and tall store.
    Pick a knot first that works for your size and shape. Then go on the hunt for the correct tie to do it with. Switching knots to adjust for length after you buy the tie can result in fail.

  • I am 34 but like the old school look of short tie. I wear pants slightly high and tie is 1 to 1 1/2 inches above. I use my first 2 fingers. If the back of the tie is too long you can tuck it in the shirt through where you button the shirt.

  • I'm 6'3" tall, it's hard for me to find ties where I live that are long enough to have a knot that looks proportionate, and still retain an acceptable difference between the length of the blades, often, I will use tie pin or bar to keep the short back blade from peeking out and looking unsightly. Not always, but with some of my ties that's my only option. I prefer my front blade within an inch of the top of my trousers, that way it's never too short, but still has a crisp outline unobstructed by my trousers or belt.

  • Mr. Schneider and what about the tie length? Can you wear a knit tie which is probably 7cm wide with a suit with lapels which are over 7cm or 9cm wide?

  • I wouldn't say that you can wear whatever you like, because while this is true in once sense, it ignores the fact that perhaps the goal should be to wear what is most flattering, what sets you off in the best way. In that context having the thin blade hang down below the wide blade is not flattering, conveys that you don't know how to tie a tie properly, and makes you look like a slob who doesn't care. So if freedom is everything to you, then knock yourself out. But if being well presented matters, then ideally the short blade should be about the same length as the wide or shorter, never longer, or if the tie is too short, make sure the wide blade hangs down to the belt line, even if the thin blade becomes too short. Put the thin blade in the keep if possible; allowing it to flap about again goes back to looking like you don't care. And don't allow either blade to drop below the belt line or be above it. If looking well presented matters to you, master these things. If you enjoy looking bad, then absolutely, do whatever you feel like.

  • I like a long tie (slightly below the waist band on some high waisted trousers). I go for a full Windsor and prefer to use the keeper

  • At mu church 80% hide their ”thinner part of their tie” under the shirt. They stick it in beteende 2 buttons and it looks really akward😬

  • My husband is large and tall, and even the so called, "extra long" ties of 72" are not long enough. The small plate end up just a tiny tail below the knot, and the large plate ends up a few inches above his belt. I've got to sew him custom ties, or get bow ties.

  • All I learn from this video is bla bla bla and more bla bla… useless burg thanks for your effort man!!

  • The size of your neck, the length of your torso, the thickness of the tie material and the length of the tie… my neck is a 20” collar size – back in college, my collar was 23”… suffice it to say that all of my dress shirts are custom made

  • Not so classy move referring to a pic of the President with scotch tape on the back of his tie. Hopefully you will be deported!

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